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sammy01

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hey I think we're in the same neck of the woods... I'm in Batemans Bay
 

SamanthaJay

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If you two wusses won't knock homeopathics, I will. Homeopathy

While I think the US health system is woeful the status of their research is high.

Oh, yes, lets compare to the US health system but we'll conveniently forget it relies only on big pharma making big dollars. Of course homeopathy doesn't work. I must have dreamed it cured my young child's ear infections whilst antibiotics did not. I must have dreamed that keeping my kids away from doctors helped them remain healthy and robust with barely a cold till this day (all young adults now). I don't care if it's witchcraft, in mine and millions of others experiences, it works without throwing money into a bottomless pit the AMA run in this country.

Who takes their kid to the doctor for the common cold or cough? I find it laughable that anyone would think a judge is going to hold it against a mother when she tries homeopathy over a trip to the doctor where just sitting in the waiting room gives you a higher chance of walking out with another contagious condition to go along with your cold and cough.
 

AllForHer

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I don't think the Court will have issue with homeopathy as a medical practice, but it will have issue with the fact that the parents don't agree about how the children's medical conditions are treated since that's a major decision under parental responsibility.

With that said, treatment for basic conditions like coughs and colds probably won't result in much movement from the Court. It’s only if the condition is something more prevalent, like leukaemia or autism or multiple sclerosis, that the Court will likely consider the evidence submitted by both parties and make parenting orders for one treatment over the other, according to what it deems is in the best interests of the child.

I think you’re ambitious to hope the Court will restrain mum from using homeopathy for minor illnesses though.
 

malcolm_smith

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Following on from lodging the mother has now begun administering the treatment in the last few days. The child's condition has dramatically improved after just four days of the treatment.

Through failing to treat the condition the child was experiencing a moderate to severe level of pain and discomfort - homeopathy was not related to this condition, I was simply using homeopathy as an example.

The mother has also backed off on the alienation allowing the children to stay with the father last night. Kids were so so happy.
 
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SamanthaJay

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Yup the Queen of England uses homeopathics - Thanks for that perspective. I think that clearly demonstrates the stupidity of your argument. I personally prefer my medical advice come from someone with some expertise... Not the head of an antiquated form of dictatorship... Mind you, if we were to use the English Royals for inspiration on a family law forum, I'm thinking Henry VIII. - He chopped of his wives heads... That is a hell of a lot more efficent than our family law system.

The queen of England uses homeopathics - She is a big girl now, she can make her own choices about her health care. But I'm also pretty sure the queen gets her flu shot every year in case she gets some germs from us commoners.... But some folk - I've been one of them, have had to deal with a primary carer that insist vaccinations are dangerous, that anti-biotics are the work of the devil and cranberry juice will cure my daughter's urinary tract infections...

Missing school for mental health issues... Nope sorry guys you're wrong - this guy isn't getting to see his kids, she is refusing to discuss medical issues. SHARED PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY...

dont get me wrong I don't mind a bit of natural therapies.... I used to suck down rescue remedy before every change over... That stuff works too. But that is my choice. This mum is refusing to provide any discussion with dad about medical stuff.. Shared parental responsibility and all that?

Sammy, I don't need your opinion of the royal family - the stupidity of your argument is that homeopathy isn't accepted when clearly it is, widely around the world. Are you privy to the queen's medical records? How do you know she gets a flu shot? I'd say based on her preference for natural health treatment, the odds are that she doesn't get a flu shot. Something must be going right for her in the natural health department because she's had a pretty good innings so far.

Since we're making judgements here, I'd say mum is refusing to discuss medical stuff with dad because dad has his own staunch opinion and doesn't want to know about mum wanting to approach health issues in an alternative way. I'd be the same if my ex was insisting the kids go to the doctor for a cough or cold.

As for cranberry and urinary tract infections, ask the multitude of women who have been prescribed antibiotics for years and years without any relief for UTIs only to start taking cranberry capsules and juice and cure themselves within days.

Anyway, Allforher, the voice of reason, has summed it up much better than I have.
 

Nonfiction

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Following on from lodging the mother has now begun administering the treatment in the last few days. The child's condition has dramatically improved after just four days of the treatment.

Through failing to treat the condition the child was experiencing a moderate to severe level of pain and discomfort - homeopathy was not related to this condition, I was simply using homeopathy as an example.

The mother has also backed off on the alienation allowing the children to stay with the father last night. Kids were so so happy.

I dare say, that if the mother sought legal advice after you filed and you had evidence she was not following medical advice/treatments for your child (as alleged in your Form 4), she would likely have been informed by the lawyer to provide the prescribed treatment.

Glad to hear the child is starting to feel better and the children were able to spend some time with their father.
 

malcolm_smith

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We were instructed nearly two years ago on how to treat the condition. It's been a cycle of me collecting the child, treating them five days, returning them to Mum and picking them up nine days later back in the same condition. It's painful for the child and not at all fair that they should suffer when there is a safe, proven and effective treatment. It's been recommended by their paediatrician, GP and specialists. I've been beating my head against a brick wall trying to get Mum to administer.

And on homeopathy. It HAS been scientifically disproven. The notion that water has a memory and can retain some sort of efficacy when the active ingredient is dillited 20,000:1 is sheer madness.

We loved homeopathic teething formula. Our kids quietened right down. Probably mainly from the alcohol content though : /
 

SamanthaJay

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And on homeopathy. It HAS been scientifically disproven. The notion that water has a memory and can retain some sort of efficacy when the active ingredient is dillited 20,000:1 is sheer madness.

We loved homeopathic teething formula. Our kids quietened right down. Probably mainly from the alcohol content though : /

Homeopathy is considered a real phenomena by some scientists - there are many things on earth that we don't understand how they work. Luc Antoine Montagnier was the virologist who won a Nobel prize for his joint discovery of HIV and was questioned on his beliefs about homeopathy, He said "I can’t say that homeopathy is right in everything. What I can say now is that the high dilutions are right. High dilutions of something are not nothing. They are water structures which mimic the original molecules. We find that with DNA, we cannot work at the extremely high dilutions used in homeopathy; we cannot go further than a 10−18 dilution, or we lose the signal. But even at 10−18, you can calculate that there is not a single molecule of DNA left. And yet we detect a signal."

And contradicting yourself there with the teething formula. The alcohol content is so minute that it doesn't even affect blood alcohol levels.