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NSW Neighbour and His Friends Hooning - How to Get Police to Act?

Discussion in 'Other/General Law Forum' started by Aga, 15 May 2016.

  1. Aga

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    A neighbour and his friends hoon our street all the time. Our calls to police do not result in any action. We have a CCTV system which captures the street action. Can the police be asked to act on the evidence on the video? While it cannot show the speed, the burnouts, etc., are visible.
     
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    Hi aga,
    OK, so first up, is there a crime? (The burn-out isn't on private property is it?) NSW has some pretty tough anti hoon laws right?

    ROAD TRANSPORT ACT 2013 - SECT 116Conduct associated with road and drag racing and other activities

    OK, so assuming the burn-out is on a public street, and you've got video, the police ought to thank you for collecting the evidence for them. But they don't, right?

    I give this suggestion a lot: you need to put these details into a formal complaint. Have a read of this page:

    Community Legal Centres NSW - Making a formal complaint about a NSW Police Officer

    Essentially, the police don't want to spend the time to address your hoon problem, so you need to make a written complaint, this can't be ignored, leaves a paper trail, and after a few complaints stack up from you, they'll act on it. Or else someone higher up can be embarrassed, by a viral video, for example.

    You could also try a local "get tough on hoons" politician... Ask them to speak to the police on your behalf.

    I hope this helps.

    Regards,
     
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    This has been wonderful help, thank you for the prompt help. Yes the burn out is in the public street (used by mums with prams - a real worry). When I went to make a complaint, I was told to give the local police a call when the nuisance starts and then the police will come to investigate. I did call that number many times, full details but nothing happened. But I dont want to pick on a police officer, I just want the system to respond better.

    I am also thinking of starting a neighbourhood watch as I am not the only one impacted and perhaps together we can make police take action.
     
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    Hi aga,
    OK, so public street, and I guess you saw the legislation about burn outs.

    OK, so you call the cops when it starts, and they don't show. Look, you might find these people have a "lookout", so when the cops are approaching, everybody leaves anyway. I suggest you film them doing the burnouts and show that to the cops. The cops can act on video evidence you collect. Don't let them know you are filming, or there may be some retribution.

    You're thinking of starting some neighbourhood watch? It must be quite a problem. You might find people are a little reluctant for fear of retribution. You could get the number for the local station and find out the officer in charge's name, and pass that to the neighbours to call...on Monday during office hours.

    You don't want to name a specific officer of n a complaint. Your complaint won't get far unless you do. Don't worry about the officer getting in trouble...it never happens. It's just about racking up some record of the problem that the cops can't ignore.


    Good luck,
     
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    Hi

    I am assuming that the politician you refer will be a NSW MP and not the local councilor. Thanks
     
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    Hi aga,
    State MP, local councillor, opposition pollies...they all like to sound tough on hoons. Their request that cops deal with the hoons will add weight too.

    Any politician who'll speak to the cops on your behalf really at the moment the cops are ignoring it because one person is complaining, but when representatives of the whole suburb start, they might take it more seriously.

    It's a squeaky wheel thing.

    Regards,
     
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    Thanks once again. I will start with the council and work my way.

    Searching the web I am getting confused about following - if I point my video camera to my neighbour's drive way - is it illegal to capture images?
     
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    Gorodetsky Well-Known Member

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    Hi aga,
    Dunno if it's legal or not. Not a good thing, though. The laws on that are different in each state. I'm in QLD.

    I recommend you wait till they're doing burnouts in the street and video with a phone from inside the house. Try to get the numberplate, but down worry if you can't. The colour, make and model will probably be registered to the address next door and any magistrate will see who it belongs to. Beside your statement of what the number plate is and who is driving is evidence too.

    Filming them in their driveway is private land, so won't help the "breaking the law" argument.

    Regards,
     
  9. Aga

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    Hi

    I agree. It is a pity that when we approached to talk with them, we were told to get off the property. I will stop taking your time further apart from very grateful thanks for your help.
     

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