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ti lew

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So there has been this account up for a while now who has in the past sexually roleplayed with minors online. Now this person is over 40 years old but she has called out as a 25 years old, although she obviously isn\'t due to the face reveal she showed online a few years ago. She has roleplayed with people who vary from the age of 13-19 years old. Is this illegal in anyway? This person lives in UK by the way but I\'m not sure if the laws are different over there.
 

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Sounds a lot like grooming, which is extremely serious. If you have any suspicions at all that a minor has been targeted and is being groomed for sex, even if the perpetrator is only doing it to get their rocks off, you should report it to the Police immediately. It doesn't matter that they are in the UK.
 
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ti lew

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Sounds a lot like grooming, which is extremely serious. If you have any suspicions at all that a minor has been targeted and is being groomed for sex, even if the perpetrator is only doing it to get their rocks off, you should report it to the Police immediately. It doesn't matter that they are in the UK.

Would it matter if both parts are fine with it?
Because someone who is friends with the elder person said that if they are 16 years old it's fine due to the consent.
Does it still make a difference?
 

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Well under the law, an adult is 18 or older, but under NSW laws (dunno about Victoria), when it comes to sex offences, a "child" is someone under 16. So apparently if you're over 16 but under 18, you don't exist.

Okay, all kidding aside, child grooming laws (in NSW) apply to the same age bracket - up to 16yo, which is also the age for consent. I'm sure someone on here will confirm if it's the same for VIC or not.
 

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She 'role played' with kids as young a 13? Nope wrong. Illigal grooming

Scruff - 16 is the age of consent in NSW - but that is sex... I reckon the same applies, so sexting between 2 16yr olds is not illegal. Sexting is what I'm gonna call this roleplay stuff. So sexting between a 16 yr old and and 19 yr old again lawful.

Short version under 16 - no matter what against the law.
 
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ti lew

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She 'role played' with kids as young a 13? Nope wrong. Illigal grooming

Scruff - 16 is the age of consent in NSW - but that is sex... I reckon the same applies, so sexting between 2 16yr olds is not illegal. Sexting is what I'm gonna call this roleplay stuff. So sexting between a 16 yr old and and 19 yr old again lawful.

Short version under 16 - no matter what against the law.


The thing is she is around 30 + years old and she roleplays smut with people who vary from 13 and over . I know anything younger than 16 would be illegal but I want to know all up whether it's lawful to roleplay such content with people who are 13 TO 18 .
 

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In general, it comes down to exactly what is going on and what the intention of the perpetrator is.

Grooming laws apply if there's an intent ot lure the child into a sexual act. You mention "smut", which implies that the role playing itself may include some form of sexual aspect, so there's a couple of ways to look at it:

1. If the role playing includes sexual aspects, simulated or not, then pornography laws apply and grooming laws would likely apply.
2. If there is no sexual aspects in the role playing, then it comes down to what the perpetrator's intentions are. If those intentions are to lure the child into performing a sexual act, grooming laws apply. Once the child performs a sexual act online, simulated or not, pornography laws apply.

The laws apply based on the age of the child involved as follows:

Child Grooming:
TAS: under 17yo;
Commonwealth, all other States and Territories: under 16yo.

Child Pornography **:
ACT, NSW, QLD, WA: under 16yo;
SA: under 17yo;
Commonwealth, NT, TAS, VIC: under 18yo;

** Based on laws related to "production" of child pornography. It's possible that other age groups may be applicable in relation to "possession" of such material.

Ref (Last updated 2017): Online child grooming laws
Ref (Last updated 2015): Child pornography offences: Production
 
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ti lew

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In general, it comes down to exactly what is going on and what the intention of the perpetrator is.

Grooming laws apply if there's an intent ot lure the child into a sexual act. You mention "smut", which implies that the role playing itself may include some form of sexual aspect, so there's a couple of ways to look at it:

1. If the role playing includes sexual aspects, simulated or not, then pornography laws apply and grooming laws would likely apply.
2. If there is no sexual aspects in the role playing, then it comes down to what the perpetrator's intentions are. If those intentions are to lure the child into performing a sexual act, grooming laws apply. Once the child performs a sexual act online, simulated or not, pornography laws apply.

The laws apply based on the age of the child involved as follows:

Child Grooming:
TAS: under 17yo;
Commonwealth, all other States and Territories: under 16yo.

Child Pornography **:
ACT, NSW, QLD, WA: under 16yo;
SA: under 17yo;
Commonwealth, NT, TAS, VIC: under 18yo;

** Based on laws related to "production" of child pornography. It's possible that other age groups may be applicable in relation to "possession" of such material.

Ref (Last updated 2017): Online child grooming laws
Ref (Last updated 2015): Child pornography offences: Production

Oh , okay thank you ! But they wouldn't be considered a pedophile would they? Although it could be linked to it, right? Mentally wise at least.
 

Scruff

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paedophile
noun
a person who is sexually attracted to children.
So yes, they would be considered a paedophile.
 
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ti lew

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So yes, they would be considered a paedophile.
Alright! Once I sort of (I do regret it since her followers despise and have gone so far as to impersonate me) called her out for her actions and for said title. But she argues she's not, and she has never done smut in general. Which are all lies because others have said she has too. And her character (she plays) hasn't ever done such things.