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TylerFrost

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If I was unlawfully arrested, fingerprinted and had a mugshot taken when there was no necessity for this or reasonable suspicion, and I want to take the matter to the Victorian Police Professional Standards Command, what are the chances of getting something done? I understand this is just police investigating police so I'm wondering if anyone has had any experience with them?
Just for the record, I didn't do anything the accuser accused me of and there's no evidence that I did because it never happened. It seems that this psycho can just make something up and I get arrested without any prior investigation.

It seems that the police were just trying to gain information advantage by arresting me and hoped to find something during the interview that they could use retrospectively to justify the arrest. They underestimated me.. Or, maybe they thought I could be taken advantage of.. Performance Stats?

No they didn't charge me or even say they were going to charge me. It all got marked No Offence Detected.
 
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TylerFrost

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Depends.
Butthurt is not evidence. What else have you got?
what do you mean Butthurt??? Understand that there was no 'reasonable suspicion' and no 'necessity'. I've raised these two points because they're fundamental legal principles outlining when an arrest can be made. If I came to the station when asked, and there was no evidence against me, but they arrested me anyway to get an information advantage, then it seems that they did so to try to get something they could use to retrospectively justify the arrest. They have nothing, and the onus is on them.. Why do you ask me, "what else have you got"? I don't need evidence, they do.

In order to arrest me, they would need something that indicated to them that they had reasonable suspicion that I committed the so called crime. I didn't tell them anything about the crime because I didn't even know about it until the police contacted me. There wasn't a shred of evidence to justify the arrest.

Was that a serious answer?
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Why do you ask me, "what else have you got"? I don't need evidence, they do.
Your question is not about the grounds of your arrest.
Your question above is about your prospects of revenge if you make a complaint to Professional Standards.
And that's the question I answered.
For there to be "enough" for "getting something done",
you'll more evidence of wrongdoing than you appear to have at present.
Right now, all you have is resentment butthurt.
 

TylerFrost

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Your question is not about the grounds of your arrest.
Your question above is about your prospects of revenge if you make a complaint to Professional Standards.
And that's the question I answered.
For there to be "enough" for "getting something done",
you'll more evidence of wrongdoing than you appear to have at present.
Right now, all you have is resentment butthurt.
Well I do have evidence as a matter of fact. I have an L19 form (a record of arrest) that says I was arrested for questioning. I also have a phone recording of the police telling me that I was arrested for questioning. So I have all the evidence I need I'm not sure why that is suddenly relevant to you.

I am asking about whether or not The professional standards command will do anything if presented with the right evidence?

I'm asking what are my chances of them doing the right thing given that they are police investigating police.? Have you heard any experience with them?
 

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You appear to have some sort of idea of what "the right thing" is in this case.
What do you say "the right thing" is here?
 

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You appear to have some sort of idea of what "the right thing" is in this case.
What do you say "the right thing" is here?
Honestly mate I don't know why you comment on this forum. You're absolutely no help whatsoever.

Your smug two word answers don't help anybody.
It's quite clear what I am asking.
I want to know that if presented with a fair case will the professional standards command treat the matter according to law or will they do whatever they can to protect the police?

Such a simple damn question.

I Read through your posts on this forum and all you do is heckle people when they're in their most vulnerable state and need help. You seem to get off on it.
 

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I want to know that if presented with a fair case will the professional standards command treat the matter according to law or will they do whatever they can to protect the police?
And it's quite clear what the answer is:
"It all depends on what you claim they did, and what evidence you have that tends to prove it"

Such a simple answer.

It's settled law that Victoria Police have a (conditional) power to stop and search people.
That you in particular might have a problem
with being stopped and spoken to by police
doesn't change that.
 
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And it's quite clear what the answer is:
"It all depends on what you claim they did, and what evidence you have that tends to prove it"

Such a simple answer.

It's settled law that Victoria Police have a (conditional) power to stop and search people.
That you in particular might have a problem
with being stopped and spoken to by police
doesn't change that.
I have no idea what you're talking about.. Stop and search? Nothing to do with it.
I really wouldn't bother commenting going forward, you're no help at all.

For anyone else who looks at this. The question is as above..

I want to know that if presented with a fair case will the professional standards command treat the matter according to law or will they do whatever they can to protect the police?
Do they show considerable bias to the point that they're worth bypassing and going straight to IBAC?


That's it.