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MariaPan

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Hi, I haven't managed to obtain an understanding of where I stand, so thought to try my luck here.

There's a Telstra pit that's smack bang in the middle of the crossover of my property and my neighbour's. Long story short, due to our build, the shared crossover of my property and the neighbour's need to be fixed. My builder and I will split the cost of the crossover, which I'm ok with. Council have come back and said that due to the location of the Telstra pit, I'll need permission from Telstra. Telstra have said that due to no damage, and simply due to relocation because of 'my preference ', there will be a charge of $7549. My builder says I have to fork out the full amount plus the agreed portion of the crossover works. I've been quite distressed by this. Firstly, I always thought the pit was decommissioned because a previous NBN technician told me the pit wasn't theirs and there was nothing there for them to run the cables. I've looked on BYDA and there's no record of the pit between my property and the neighbour's. I've called up Telstra and they didn't know what I was referring to about the pit as they don't have records of it. Yet, they were more than happy to quote for relocation. Even though the operator could not locate records of the pit, they refused to send me written confirmation of this. Instead they keep referring me to their assets department, who have said that they'll charge me (and the online form suggests I am agreeing to the relocation) to send out someone to confirm the status of the pit. I don't agree that I should be charged for this, that they should have records if it is truly theirs. I've checked under the lid, and there's no cables, just lots of dirt and grass, so obviously not maintained. I don't know what to do next. Council is pressuring me to fix driveway but won't give permit until I have dealt with the pit, which I truly don't believe it's my responsibility given it appears not in used.
 

Atticus

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That’s a very tricky (and unfortunately common) situation in Victoria when it comes to old utility pits, especially around crossovers. Here’s a clear breakdown of your position and possible next steps:


1. Ownership and responsibility

  • Telstra pits: Even if disused or empty, if a pit is still classed as Telstra infrastructure, it usually remains their asset until officially decommissioned.
  • NBN vs Telstra: Many older pits are ex-Telstra, but not all were mapped into NBN’s records when the NBN rollout happened. That’s why you’re seeing the “nobody knows” problem — BYDA (Before You Dig Australia) only shows what utilities have reported.
  • Council’s position: They won’t let you alter a public asset (even a crossover) if there’s uncertainty about utilities beneath it — they push the responsibility back to you to resolve with the asset owner.

2. Key issues in your case

  • BYDA shows no record.
  • Telstra staff can’t confirm it’s theirs.
  • NBN previously said it wasn’t theirs.
  • The pit appears empty/unmaintained.
  • Telstra still quoted relocation ($7,549) without confirming ownership or use.
That means they’re treating you as if you’ve admitted it’s theirs, when they haven’t proven it.


3. Options you have

a) Push Telstra harder on records

  • You can make a formal written request under the Telecommunications Act 1997 for them to confirm if it’s an asset.
  • If they refuse to confirm ownership, you can lodge a complaint with the Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman (TIO). The TIO can compel them to clarify ownership before charging you.
b) Engage Council

  • Point out that BYDA has no record, and Telstra cannot confirm ownership. Ask Council if they will accept a written declaration from you (supported by BYDA search results and photos of the pit) that no live utility is present.
  • Some councils will accept this with an engineer’s report or after you engage a locator (a Dial Before You Dig accredited locator can scan to confirm).
c) Independent verification

  • You can pay a private utility locator (~$300–$600, much cheaper than Telstra’s $7.5k) to scan and verify whether there are cables or conduits in/under the pit. This gives you evidence to present to Council or to challenge Telstra.
d) Challenge the cost allocation

  • If the pit is confirmed Telstra’s, and relocation is required solely because of the crossover works, then it becomes a “shared cost” issue. It’s unfair for your builder to dump the full $7.5k on you if the crossover serves both properties. Council may even back you if you argue that the pit obstructs a public crossover serving multiple lots.

4. Practical next steps

  1. Get everything in writing — from Telstra and Council. No more verbal “it might be ours.”
  2. Run another BYDA enquiry and keep the reference.
  3. Engage an independent locator to scan the pit.
  4. If Telstra still insists without proof → lodge with TIO (free for you).
  5. Present your evidence (BYDA + locator report) to Council and request they accept that the pit is abandoned or not in use.
  6. If proven Telstra’s, push for cost-sharing with your builder and neighbour, as the relocation is triggered by the shared crossover, not just your preference.

👉 Bottom line: Don’t agree to Telstra’s relocation charge until they prove it’s theirs. Get an independent locator report, then either push Council to proceed or escalate through the TIO