Storm water easement - my rights?

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Kev88

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hi guys,

I shall start by saying that I’m in a rather unique and tricky situation. I own a corner block of land of about 500 square meters which contains a 3m wide easement for a stormwater drain 2m underneath the ground that cuts across the middle of the property at a 45 degree angle. According to the current dcp for my council ( nsw), the only structures you can build on this land are pretty much two sheds on opposing corners.

Now, I have a house (build circa 1970s) that I assume is council approved built right on top of the easement. The house also has a second storey extension (added circa 1990) which consists of two rooms that is on top the the garage at the rear of the house.

Due to a growing family, i have recently begun inquiries into further extending the house to the maximum allowable FSR.
I began proceedings by consulting one of the planning control guys from the council who advised that because of the easement, I should further consult somebody from the public works department as they have the final say in the DA. This is what I did and the person pretty much responded by saying that “no DA will be permissible for any kind of extension as this contravenes the DCP. The council has previously made mistakes by allowing previous developments and that they will not repeat this.” I then asked what will happen if my house burns down to which he replied “too bad”. Note also that my proposed extension plans was to increase the current second storey to the confines of the current ground level footprint and therefore not affecting the easement in any way.

I hung up and a few hours later, the same officer calls back saying that they can offer an alternative of allowing the stormwater drain to be rediverted around the property instead.

I quickly jumped on the phone and called around to contacts who did this sort of work. The common message I was gettting back was to budget 250k for such works. Should I wish to proceed with this option I would need to engage a stormwater engineer to help prepare diagrams of the proposed redirection, submit to council who then replies with cost estimates and ultimately carry out the works.


So here I am now weighing up my options.
As a reasonable person (albeit with coloured glasses on) it just seems to be not very fair for the council to make such a “no DA no matter what” determination considering that the current house is already there and the proposed works should not affect the easement.

Do I have any grounds to argue my case in court? I do appreciate that the council has offered an “alternative” but it’s one that’s hardly reasonable . Thoughts?

Regards,
Kev
 
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Rob Legat - SBPL

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I'm in Queensland and the laws are different, but the principles (and physics) should still apply:

- Consider yourself lucky you've got what you have. Council should not have approved the existing structure. You're lucky they're not making your demolish what's already there (but see below). While I appreciate they did erroneously give consent (which is probably what is saving you) Councils can and do make people tear down constructed works.
- Building more on the existing footprint isn't a viable option. One of the reasons for no building is what the weight of the building can do to the pipe. Even a crack in a stormwater pipe could have you end up with a sinkhole right under your house. You can guess what comes next.
- If Council need to access the existing pipe, they will likely have the ability to dig straight through your house to get at it - and probably will.
 

Kev88

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Hi Rob,

Let me say thank you for taking the time to reply.

I’m just a little bit in shock as it definitely wasn’t an opninon that I was expecting.

While I accept that your assertions are more likely to be reality than not, I find it incredible to believe that the land would immediately be rendered useless should disaster strike upon it.

Would there be grounds to hold the council to account for the errors that’s been made?
Can anybody recommend a specialists lawyer in this field (and in the Sydney metropolitan area) for me to sit down and have a chat with?


Regards,

Kev
 

Rod

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No, I don't know any specialist NSW property lawyers.

My comment is that you'd be hard pressed to hold the council to a negligence claim for a 40 yr old house especially when your lawyer/conveyancer should have alerted you to the existence of the easement and you chose to buy anyway.

Might be a good time to sell.
 

Tripe

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1. You own all the land in question and an easement holder can’t stop you from reasonable enjoyment of your land.

Putting an addition onto your property is a reasonable use of your land.

2. You can’t undertake any activities, that prevents the easement holders from enjoying their easement.
( I am struggling to understand how the house was allowed to be built over the easement ?)

3. The council storm water pipes, performs as designed, even with your house over them.

4. I can’t see how extending your house in an area that is not burdened by the easement, can be stopped by a council.

5. I would submit the DA, and get them to commit to written correspondence, I find most council employees are full of shite, and overstate things.
 

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Why annoy the council when they may decide the stormwater needs to be moved at YOUR COST?

When there's at least $250K at stake, possibly your house, then you don't unnecessarily antagonise the people that decide what is going to happen.

Cheaper to move.
 

Tripe

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An easement holder can not over burden the servient title holders land

The addition is not over the easement, how is any council going to argue, that the addition will effect the easement?




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The addition is over the easement. Just happens to be on top of the house that is already over the easement.
 

Tripe

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The council only have access rights to a 3 m strip, that’s all, if the addition is outside this, they can’t stop it. I can’t see, where the addition is over this 3 m strip ?


An easement does not give the dominant title holder exclusive Possesion of Someone’s land.



If it was me, I would uncover the storm water pipe, where practical and see if it is lower than 2m in the ground, if I could find this, I would use this as a “tool” to get the drain diverted.