NSW Police lying under oath

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  1. gobbldygook

    gobbldygook Active Member

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    I recently went to court and had 2 police witnesses concoct a story that justified a fine that they issued.

    They lied about the speed they were travelling. Instead of travelling at 60 - 70 km/h they said that they were stationery. Instead of it being dark and well over an hour before first light, it was dawn and light. Instead of them passing my vehicle and waiting for 1 -2 minutes they put their sirens on immediately and pulled me over.
    They made up stories as to what was said.

    These were complete and utter lies.
    I proven the timing meant that dawn was not even close.

    Their stories changed after I was directed by the magistrate to speak with the police prosecutor and explained to the police prosecutor that they were probably speeding, pulled over 50 - 100 metres in front of me and then pulled me over in another road.

    My question is how common is it that NSW police lie through their teeth under oath?
    Has anyone had issues with constables from Eastwood LAC?
     
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    They all lie to some point, they don’t want look like they made an ‘error’, $h1t no. This happens in every state.
     
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    Ozwarlock67 Well-Known Member

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    If you can successfully allege/prove perjury, it's a serious matter.
    I'd get legal assistance right away, explaining everything as you have just done here.

    It should certainly get your matter reviewed.

    But yes, "Alert" is correct. Cops lie because they think the average citizen won't call them out on it.
     
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    I proved that they lied about dawn. They said that it was dawn to try and get the magistrate to believe that there was lots of light.
    I showed that dawn was actually an hour and a quarter later. I showed photos that showed it was dark,taken exactly one year later. Police officer said that I remember it being lighter. Utter garbage.

    Police officer reduced the size of the photocopy of his record book to a quarter of its original size. An attempt to make it difficult to read the fact that the most important information was not possible to read. Magistrates solution give me the original.

    Magistrate directed me to speak with their prosecutor who went to great lengths that they do not work for the police but for the courts. I explained that the police car was speeding as it passed me and it then stopped 50 - 100 metres further down the road for 1-2 mins. The police car put sirens on and pulled me over in another street.

    After me explaining this, the police officers testimony changed to include a fictitious red light, they said that they "to the best of my memory we did not go past the vehicle".

    I stopped for 1-2 mins (I proved this using difference between their time and my time based on an Uber reading). However, magistrate threw this out as the police timing was approximate.
     
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    Well done ;)
     
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    So where are we at? Will they drop the charge?

    It smells of perjury.
     
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    For me it sounds as though the charges were dropped and case dismissed.
    Then again, you just never know, they may harass him now for providing evidence which proved he was correct?
     
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    Not really. Even though I did this, magistrate did nothing except find me guilty. On appeal judge said that magistrate was right.

    What a corrupt system we have.
     
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    It was definitely perjury. However, the two officers have been stuck up for my magistrate. On appeal magistrate has been stuck up for my district court judge.

    It is a very corrupt system we have in Australia.

     
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    Corruption, you are correct. With all the evidence you provided and you were found guilty I don’t know what more you can do. I guess you could appeal.
     
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