NSW Child support how much to pay

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Louise too

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I currently pay bit more required child support $190 instead of $65 per week. As we all know $65 wkly is not enough for 3 girls.
$65 is paid via child support and I make up for the rest directly into her account.

I currently have kids 2 nights per week.
I pick up girls after school Thursday drop off at 8:30pm.
Every Friday after school to Sunday evening 7 pm.

I pay school shoes,uniforms, all excursions , sport , outside school sport etc. kids hand excursions etc to mother but she refuses to pay. So girls will miss out.
The girls school was terrible. To the point that the eldest said she is embarrassed and mum can’t afford new shoes.

Going to court in the 9 September.

What can I do I. Meantime. ??
 

sammy01

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You are mad
$190 is not a little bit more than $65. And what are you getting in return? Abuse.
I will write a longer response later. But I'm gonna give u some home work first. At the dept of human services website you will find an online calculator. It can help u work out how much family tax benefit she gets. I'm gonna guess she gets about $16000 a year tax free.
Oh and if u pay extra she is meant to declare it and if memory serves they will reduce their payments by 50 cents for each additional dollar you pay

Don't pay it over the school holidays. Dare ya
 

sammy01

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Family Tax Benefit - FTB Part A payment rates - Australian Government Department of Human Services
I have some spare time right now... I went through there stupid estimator...

So based on a few assumptions - like she earns $50 000 gross.... family tax benefit amount = $25 000 a year. $950 a fortnight TAX FREE.

So you go to a restaurant. The food is awesome, waitress great. Bar maid charges drinks at mates rates because she thinks you're cute and writes her name, phone number and a nice note on the receipt. Do you leave a tip? too bloody right you do...

You go to another restaurant. The waitress smokes a ciggie while serving you and some ash falls on your steak. There is a fly in your drink. The barmaid pours the drink into a different glass to get the fly out and gives it back to you. Do you leave a tip? Hell no.

Now can you see the comparison to your situation?

Go and buy the girls school shoes / school uniforms, pay for the excursions directly to the school. Make sure the kids see you doing it so they know dad is doing his best. Mate think about it. on the other thread you said she would not provide you with uniforms if you kept the kids on Sunday? You paid for those uniforms.

Now before I let you off the naughty chair because frankly, you've been very silly mate. She should be singing your praises. But she's not and you're running scared of her.

So back in the day I was a fan of the principle of the honey pot. The honey pot keeps things sweet. I liked the idea of paying a little extra, just to keep things sweet between me and the ex. But when she expected it and demanded more it wasn't sweet anymore so I stopped paying.

So your ex insists on communicating directly through solicitor to try and bleed you dry? I bet she will be keen to talk directly to you and asap when the $$$$ doesn't go in her bank.

Now I know you're not gonna like my advice - but go for a walk and think it through, maybe you'll agree with me.
 

Louise too

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You are mad
$190 is not a little bit more than $65. And what are you getting in return? Abuse.
I will write a longer response later. But I'm gonna give u some home work first. At the dept of human services website you will find an online calculator. It can help u work out how much family tax benefit she gets. I'm gonna guess she gets about $16000 a year tax free.
Oh and if u pay extra she is meant to declare it and if memory serves they will reduce their payments by 50 cents for each additional dollar you pay

Don't pay it over the school holidays. Dare ya
 

Louise too

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Ok. I have kids this week and she is meant to take them 14 July for a WHOLE week when I drop them off
I contract work and my income went from $80000 to $42000 hence why I thought I should make up difference.
But after reading ur post my mind set is changing.
I’m thinking not paying extra $125 weekly extra due to extra expenses I’m paying. However .... how will this look in court ?
By the way. I’m not sure is if my first court date is interim hearing or what I have to expect etc ? I ask lawyer but no reply.
Also I’m thinking sending letter to her next week when kids are out of my care for the week , and maybe include new child support payments arrangements?
 

Atticus

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I’m thinking not paying extra $125 weekly extra due to extra expenses I’m paying. However .... how will this look in court ?

Court will be happy as long as you are paying at least the assessed amount... So are you paying through the CSA or private collect?.. If private collect, I would consider paying through CSA. She can then take up the assessed amount with them instead of you.. Just go to the online calculator first & make sure what your assessed amount is likely to be if you're unsure...

Also she has form by not paying for kids uniforms & things as the money you give her is intended. That is a factual, valid reason to tell court if the subject should come up, so as Sammy01 suggested, pay school direct & buy items yourself
 

sammy01

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how will it look in court? It will look as though you have been paying as per the rules. That is called fair
BTW why did your income drop? Maybe, just maybe because the ex was screwing you around and that made it hard to find time to work? Mate I think the system is fair CS is based on the previous year's income. So if you have a good year, cs will go up. Bad year it will go down...

I would not even talk to her about the child support. Just don't pay it. Wait till she mentions it. You can then explain that going to court to get fair and reasonable access to the kids is expensive. But a word of warning. You must see this through. If she offers you the time you want make sure it is done through the courts. Mate only about 5% of cases ever go to a final hearing. In most cases parents come to an agreement. Often outside the court. But you need stamped court orders so she can't change her mind next week.

First court date is a 'mention'. I almost think they're having a laugh at our expense by calling it that. For all this stress and money it will be a mention. As in - I forgot to mention.... It will be over within a few minutes.
Have a read
Initial procedural hearing in a parenting case - Family Court of Australia

It is likely more mediation will be ordered and if you're very lucky it might happen that day and you might get some progress on changing the parenting routine. What will happen will depend pretty much on the magistrate, so you're not gonna get much more of a definitive answer here.
 

Louise too

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how will it look in court? It will look as though you have been paying as per the rules. That is called fair
BTW why did your income drop? Maybe, just maybe because the ex was screwing you around and that made it hard to find time to work? Mate I think the system is fair CS is based on the previous year's income. So if you have a good year, cs will go up. Bad year it will go down...

I would not even talk to her about the child support. Just don't pay it. Wait till she mentions it. You can then explain that going to court to get fair and reasonable access to the kids is expensive. But a word of warning. You must see this through. If she offers you the time you want make sure it is done through the courts. Mate only about 5% of cases ever go to a final hearing. In most cases parents come to an agreement. Often outside the court. But you need stamped court orders so she can't change her mind next week.

First court date is a 'mention'. I almost think they're having a laugh at our expense by calling it that. For all this stress and money it will be a mention. As in - I forgot to mention.... It will be over within a few minutes.
Have a read
Initial procedural hearing in a parenting case - Family Court of Australia

It is likely more mediation will be ordered and if you're very lucky it might happen that day and you might get some progress on changing the parenting routine. What will happen will depend pretty much on the magistrate, so you're not gonna get much more of a definitive answer here.
Ok. Both dares will be happening.
I’m going to send msg her about care when kids go back next week.
No doubt I’m Going to have kids every Sunday night from 4 August., because I know she will not go back to 2 pm drop off. Even if she threatens to come over and cause scene in front of kids.
And stop extra child support. !!
I will read the links this arvo when I have time.
Thanks heaps for sending sending them.
 

sammy01

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So you have the kids for the first week of school holidays? When do they go to mum?

Mate it is a big step - but the simple act of standing up to her is a good start. It should give you some confidence about asserting yourself and in my experience with my ex, sure I was scared of her, but standing up for myself achieved a few wins. Gaining some confidence that I can co-parent and that doesn't mean that she makes the rules because she was the primary carer.... But the big one I found was that pitbull was all bark and no bite if you know what I mean...
 

Louise too

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The kids go back Sunday 14 July.

Yes I know what you mean.

I had to work today. Therefore the kids had to go to my parents last night. The kids told their mum on their phone yesterday afternoon. And of course started issues. Their mum told kids she will mind them instead. The youngest said mum wanted to speak to me , their mum did not believe me that I was working accusing me of lying and saying I’m seeing my gf instead then starting making demands that she will have kids !!!! I flat out said NO it’s my time with kids and my business what I do. And unfortunately unable to rely on her to mind kids cause I told her she is unpredictable re: not answering door , too tired etc. unbelievable. Just trying to make herself look good in front of kids and make look like the bad persons. .... again !!!