QLD Credit Corp Chasing a Debt - What are Our Rights?

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Broncos4ever

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I got a settlement using cantpaymydebt but it took just over a year. If you no how to upload pics from phone ill upload the message from debt collector here.

It started with discounts out of nowhere then a letter settling.
 

kevin586

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hi people, I might also need assistance from the guy Andrew Sellar from cantpaymydebt, if you see this post, could you let me know how does it go after you pay the money? Is it a scam or it's for real?

please tell me more about this bloke from cantpaymydebt.

Email me on - [email protected] I dunno where you are at with this at the moment but I hope you have not given anyone any money to anyone at all at this stage. There is so much for you to learn for the future at least if you've gone to far at this point in time. I am happy to help you with your debt for free and teach you how to skills that will enable you to do it yourself in the future but I cannot do that if you do not contact me.
 

TRF

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We have asked for some proof from Credit Corp of this debt and what the transactions were but its from way back in 2003? I called GE Money and they said that Credit Corp would have to request past statements and pass them on and that we couldn't get a copy of them. Credit Corp have sent through one statement with just a balance on it which has no information of where the charges have come from.

15 years old debt... DO NOT PAID - STATUT BARRED DEBT - DO NOT PAID
Don't pay the dude $185 - Educate yourself for FREE

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Friend of mine had a alleged $7500 debt with Pionner Credit. BUT WE BELIEVED THE DEBT WAS STATURE BARED FROM THE START

Apparently for a Credit Card sometimes back. He started getting phone call from them to them asking re-payment of the debt and offering payment plan all over the phone of course.

We requested in writting the following:

1. A copy of the relevant and lawful Terms and Conditions;
2. A true and certified copy (NOT photocopy) of the Original Credit Agreement with your organisation;
3. A true and certified copy (NOT photocopy) of any account statements from the date of signature of the alleged contract to this date.
4. Details of how the amount of the alleged debt was calculated.
5. A true and certified copy (NOT photocopy) of the deed of assignment.

Why true and certified copy ? Because those companies has no issue creating document to make you believe.

We also requested that all communication be made by letter addressed to a PO BOX.
  • A person presenting himself as a "bailiff" but in reality a commercial agent (from his business card) came to my work place and residence looking for this person.
  • He ask me 3 times my name and I refused to gave me. He ask me if I was the person he was looking for and I refused to answer.
  • I proposed the bailiff a $10000 contract to help him to find this person or to pass on a message to this person.
  • Since he refused I ask this person to remove himself from my property - He did as he had no right to remain on the property once his implied right of access or invitation has be revoked.
  • I call back him back to know if he was at his office and meet him in the city to served him with a tresspass notice. HE WAS NOT HAPPY
  • The next saturday a call from a lady pretexting to be from an other company called. By the time she was talking I reverse the number and find she work with the commercial agent. Ask who contracted them. Told them that I had no contract with them and therefore could not discuss with them but a $10000 contract was on the table. She decline.
  • Call the firm that contracted them - a laywer debt collector in sydney - and gave them a rant. This firm told me that they do sometimes contract this company but not for any current case.
  • Two weeks after we received a letter from a law firm in Perth. Called the firm and ask about their letter. told them that we had no contract with Pioneer Credit, that we do not want any contract with them, that the debt was statute bared debt, that Pionner Credit did not provide document requested as their obligation and if they want to take the matter to court, we will be happy to apply for a Subpoena in matter to obtain the requested documents.
  • At this point the lawyer ask me if I was a laywer and I invite him to pursued the court process so he can found out. That at the end of the day I did not have to provide any information not to answer his question.
  • He hang up on me.
  • Then Pionner Credit offer to match $ for $ on the debt.... Giving a 50% discount on the original amount. - At this stage we have sent 3 letters already (not registered when they should have)
  • They call one more time where I basically call the Pionner Credit a lot little name all the time to the point he hang up on me after telling me that the conversation was recorded.....
  • IT HAS BEEN ALMOST A YEAR NOW AND NOTHING. - My friend still have to ask a credit score. We will follow up.

My knowledge on this is coming from many many sources.

First of All you should read this:
Dealing with debt collectors: your rights & responsibilities
A nice beginning but not really helpful - Pretend you have not read this...

BUT THE REAL DEAL IS HERE.... THIS DEBT COLLECTOR GUIDELINE:
https://download.asic.gov.au/media/3549402/rg96-published-29-february-2016.pdf
PLEASE READ THIS - I CANNOT STRESS YOU ENOUGH This is What they can do and not do. How they can behave.

What is a stature bared debt ? An old debt. 6 years since LAST payment (each payment is an acknowledgement of the debt) in all states - 3 years in the NT
Statute-barred debts | The Law Handbook

Do you have to pay an old debt ?
Do I have to pay an old debt? - Consumer Action Legal Help
You will find on this page a template to request the proof of the debt - What we have done in our first letter with other words.

ASIC has issue a paper about Stature barred Debt following Collection House Ltd v Taylor [2004] VSC 49
https://download.asic.gov.au/media/1347476/statute_barred_debts_report.pdf

Now in regard of the document you may request for them prove they claim over you... THE FACT THAT YOU OWN THEM MONEY.
It's all in their guidelines... 11. Providing information and documents
If they cannot supply documents
DO NOT PROCEED PAYMENT - DO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THE DEBT IN WRITING


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mickeyp0001

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Hi there,

Credit corp have been chasing a debt from my mum and harassing her. She definitely had a credit card with GE Money but had thought it was closed down. They are now ringing her about a $2300 debt. Is it possible her account has just accrued fees and charges over that time and because she thought it was closed down wasn't aware this was happening?

We have asked for some proof from Credit Corp of this debt and what the transactions were but its from way back in 2003? I called GE Money and they said that Credit Corp would have to request past statements and pass them on and that we couldn't get a copy of them. Credit Corp have sent through one statement with just a balance on it which has no information of where the charges have come from.

My question is, do we have any rights to this information? we will happily pay it if it is legit but we don't know if it is? My mum is in financial hardship and really can't afford to be paying a debt that isn't hers. Also is there some way out if it is just accrued fees and charges because the account wasn't closed down properly?

Thanks so much for any help you can give me.

Also I have paid this guy from cantpaymydebt $185 to lodge court proceedings to have credit corp desist and haven't heard anything back from him. So you know anything about him? He claims to be trying to file a class action against debt collecting agencies.
I also paid this guy money, have you heard back from him?
 

Broncos4ever

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I paid him once in the beginning and got a settlement just after 12months. I owed $12784 and settled for $900. I posted here before after paying settlement how long until default gone, but I checked yesterday and it's gone. I'm happy
 

Kieya Smith

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hi people, I might also need assistance from the guy Andrew Sellar from cantpaymydebt, if you see this post, could you let me know how does it go after you pay the money? Is it a scam or it's for real?
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hi people, I might also need assistance from the guy Andrew Sellar from cantpaymydebt, if you see this post, could you let me know how does it go after you pay the money? Is it a scam or it's for real?
how did you go drunkle?
 
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