WA Opposing lawyer calls sons lawyer so as to avoid ‘sh1t fight’ in court.

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AllForHer

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Perhaps you should read OP’s other posts...

Would make your ‘determinations’ far easier to understand. I’d prefer to stick to the facts when giving “opinions” even if those opinions can only based on the information provided.

Mm, yes, the law is hard to understand. There’s courses you can do to help you, like a Bachelor of Law. I found it very informative and it might teach you how to form your opinions by applying the legislation to the facts, instead of just forming an opinion on the facts alone - for example, s 60CC in which the need to protect a child from harm caused by abuse, neglect or family violence is a primary consideration held above the benefit to the child of having a meaningful relationship with both parents - I’d say that’s got potential to have a pretty big impact in a case where a child has suffered serious physical injuries while in the mother’s household.

As a matter of interest, interim orders don’t necessarily inform final orders, either. Judges can and have ordered no contact in final orders, so the fact that the mother’s time is supervised now doesn’t really say much about the trajectory of what the final orders might be.

Let me know if any of that is too difficult for you to understand, though.
 

Nonfiction

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It means original poster...you!

Mm, yes, the law is hard to understand. There’s courses you can do to help you, like a Bachelor of Law. I found it very informative and it might teach you how to form your opinions by applying the legislation to the facts, instead of just forming an opinion on the facts alone - for example, s 60CC in which the need to protect a child from harm caused by abuse, neglect or family violence is a primary consideration held above the benefit to the child of having a meaningful relationship with both parents - I’d say that’s got potential to have a pretty big impact in a case where a child has suffered serious physical injuries while in the mother’s household.

As a matter of interest, interim orders don’t necessarily inform final orders, either. Judges can and have ordered no contact in final orders, so the fact that the mother’s time is supervised now doesn’t really say much about the trajectory of what the final orders might be.

Let me know if any of that is too difficult for you to understand, though.

I’ve quotes this but only inclined to quickly skim not read it. Just more unsubstantiated drivel.
 

Nonfiction

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Maddi, your son needs to listen to his lawyer over and above any comments from a forum. As you can see differences of opinion can arise and not one of us here have the lawtap verification...
 

Madagascar Madness

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Maddi, your son needs to listen to his lawyer over and above any comments from a forum. As you can see differences of opinion can arise and not one of us here have the lawtap verification...

Yep we always have listened to the lawyer and there’s nothing wrong with robust conversation. Just be kind to each other we are all here for same reason
 
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Madagascar Madness

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I appreciate all opinions
And so far this forum has been on point with the outcomes we have seen in court.

Interestingly- not only has the lawyer contacted my sons lawyer to try and ‘ work something out’ but this weekend the contact has been cancelled due to mum being ‘short on funds’ The undertaking when consent orders where made was that her father would pay each week for contact.. $170 per week. These two things have occurred since we filled on Friday.
The father is a narcissist and hates our family.

Also.. myself and my daughter have re read their witness statements..all of them only contain opinion, character assaination, past issues in the relationship, character reference for the mother and one is just hearsay..yet none.. not one .. save the mothers who briefly touches on it adress the current issue or even mention the bruising and injuries to the baby.NOT ONE. Theirs waffle on with the same stuff in all the mothers previous affidavits. That my son and I are evil and the children are not safe with us.

Ours are succinct- give time lines of the events.. state what was observed..quote personally conversations with the mother, provide anexures to support the evidence, such as the text message from mother telling me she didn’t want to take the baby to the hospital when I demanded it. Yet in her affidavit she states it was her took the baby to the hospital, it was actually me after I forced her to come..touch briefly on the fact they had a crap relationship and acknowledge that it was a crap relationship as observed.

The magistrate asked for an updating affidavit but yet has got the same drivel.

Surely she will not be happy with that given her stern words to the mother!!


Mm, yes, the law is hard to understand. There’s courses you can do to help you, like a Bachelor of Law. I found it very informative and it might teach you how to form your opinions by applying the legislation to the facts, instead of just forming an opinion on the facts alone - for example, s 60CC in which the need to protect a child from harm caused by abuse, neglect or family violence is a primary consideration held above the benefit to the child of having a meaningful relationship with both parents - I’d say that’s got potential to have a pretty big impact in a case where a child has suffered serious physical injuries while in the mother’s household.

As a matter of interest, interim orders don’t necessarily inform final orders, either. Judges can and have ordered no contact in final orders, so the fact that the mother’s time is supervised now doesn’t really say much about the trajectory of what the final orders might be.

Let me know if any of that is too difficult for you to understand, though.
 

thatbloke

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I’ve quotes this but only inclined to quickly skim not read it. Just more unsubstantiated drivel.
You can tell this person has never helped anyone in an actual court setting in her entire life. (not you!)

Its very dangerous to people's cases when a book jockey starts stating actual false facts as advice.
 
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