NSW Provisions to Include When Updating Will?

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snoop

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I am in the process of updating my will as I am undergoing treatment for cancer, and have had an eye opening experience being an executor of will for a deceased estate of a relative. I have one child (school age) and an Adult step-child.

The step-child received a reasonable benefit when his father passed away 12 months ago. Neither his Father or myself have had much contact over the years with him. In fact, most contact is of a passive aggressive nature on their part. In terms of sibling contact, this is arms length contact only via Social Media. They do not see each other, nor does he attend any functions, parties or events she may go to or be part of.

My estate will include both Shares and Real Estate. What I want to do is the following:

· Leave the title of my home to my daughter – as in, state clearly the title is to transfer to her for her to do as she sees fit.

· Leave all my shares to my daughter

· Leave provision for my stepson as follows: He is to receive a cash value equivalent of 20% Valuation of our home.

· My Daughter will have my superannuation and Life Insurance payouts to fund the cash payment as I have listed her as my binding beneficiary to ensure they remain outside of my estate.

To be honest, I would rather only leave 10 or 15% to him as he has already received a benefit of over $150,000 when his Father passed away. Or even just leave a lump sum payment and not a percentage. My husband provided a benefit to him to ensure he did not contest his will and create issues for me as we had been advised that he could contest the will if he did not receive a direct benefit from his father.

Could I document my will in this way? And legally would it stand up? Would he have reasonable grounds to contest the will? I want to ensure my Daughter is protected as I just don’t trust him.

I have been told by a solicitor that I do not have to leave anything to him as his father provided for him in his will. Another solicitor has told me though that this would leave the estate vulnerable to him contesting the will as he also has a claim on my estate. Who is right?

NB: both his mother and his step-father are still alive and he would receive benefits from their estates once they pass. My daughter only has my estate.

Since I do not know how much time I have left – you never know with this disease – I am also in the process of educating my daughter in finances. Since she may be a minor at the time of my passing, I will have a trustee arrangement setup, which will be her Aunt and Uncle ( from opposing sides of the family to ensure they keep each other honest ).

If I go before she reaches 18/leaves school, she will have the option of who she lives with. The trustee will be joint and I am also wanting to stipulate that they have to report to her each quarter.

Any words of wisdom would be appreciated….
 

winston wolf

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Looks like you are doing a good job to prepare for the wost. Some notes.

My understanding is that the second lawyer is more correct. The life/super payouts can't be used to fund the payout if they are not part of the estate as the will only governs the estate. So another way to fund the step son is needed. Having said that the life/super could be deemed notional estate in NSW if a claim were made. Meaning they would form part of the estate for a family provision claim.

Having said all that I thing the overall plan is a good one to avoid an FPA claim. Your obligation to the step son is low due to minimal contact and non dependence on you.
You have made some provision.

Your daughters far greater need for support.

Making sure your reasoning is clear in your will will not reduce the chance of a claim but it will increase the chances of the claimant having to pay costs if they are unsuccessful. This will act as a deterrent if they have good legal advice.
 

snoop

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Thanks for the feedback... questions for you:

The life/super payouts can't be used to fund the payout if they are not part of the estate

Knowing that my daughter will have the Super/Life Insurance payout, surely there is some way I can word the will so that he cannot force her to sell or insist on being a % owner in the property though? is it really necessary for the will to cover how this is funded? She may decide to sell, but having the $$ from the Super and Life Insurance will allow her to decide which option she wants to take.

What I am trying to avoid is a situation where he disputes the estate value as on market the house may achieve a higher return. In this instance he may either insist on being listed on the title, or insist on the house being sold. To be honest I don't care what my daughter decides to do, but I just want to be sure she is not forced or manipulated into doing something.

What about the % as well? I'm thinking if I leave 20% then a court should deem the benefit is reasonable especially when you consider he still has two surviving parents. When his Father passed he received a 20% of estate payout, in theory I guess I should leave him 30%, but given he has two surviving parents and my daughter will not have this + the whole relationship thing.
 

winston wolf

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I suppose you could say that you leave the house to your daughter on condition she pay the son-in-law x% of the value of the house as assessed by an independent assessor and this be payed within say 12 months.

Once you tell the super/life trustees to pay someone, then its there money. Then you will can't tell them what to do with that money regardless of where they got it.

It has to be part of the estate for the will to have control over it.

If you super is large enough I think it would be easier to nominate a percentage of the super to the son in law. You can update this figure over time (hopefully a long time) as the value of you whole estate changes. You need to re nominate binding beneficiaries periodically any way.

Whether a judge takes into account his surviving parent/s is hit and miss as the parent may or may not be able to provide.

"the whole relationship thing" from what I've observed give lip service to "the whole relationship thing" but unless it's gross misconduct it comes down to $$$ and who has the greatest "need" in the judges eyes.

As I said I think a well constructed will with careful financial planning as you are doing is going to have a good chance of avoiding a claim
 

snoop

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Thanks so much. You have provided me with some options. I guess if I do decide to provide via the Super then I can note this in the will....